Episode 22: Exploring slowly – and questioning realities

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Welcome to our last episode of 2022! We’re recording just before Christmas and do the Terribly British Thing by launching into talking about Christmas decorations and who’s got what version of which virus doing the rounds.

Fear not! Dear listeners – we are hale and hearty enough to chew through some of the things which are rippling our universes… Louise also drops the word ‘miasma’ – which is gloriously unexpected.

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It’s not quite as unexpected as discovering that South Korea is about to change its aging system. We’re thoroughly amazed, and start inquiring into the differences between a South Korean ‘Two Year Old’ and a Western ‘Two Year Old’ – and what this might mean, especially as an entire nation would get a year older at the same time. We also get curious about what this means for celebrating individual’s birth event anniversaries and how we construct our reality in relation to people’s age. This is a complete blindspot in our knowledge – so if anyone with a better understanding of South Korean culture and tradition is listening, please get in touch!

If the way we age (at least in numbers) is socially constructed, then what does this tell us about the construction of reality around us? Louise has found a superb piece from the BBC, narrated by Anil Seth (whose book, Being You, Louise is loving). We start with thinking about colour, then back to South Korean aging and on into ancient glassware in Bristol Museum which also defies reality unless you pay attention… Louise also plugs The Perception Census which sounds amazing.

Our joint flabber is generally ghasted when Louise drops the morsel that in Canterbury, England, there wasn’t a Cathedral Girl’s Choir until 2014. In an age where the doors of the patriarchy are quite rightly being flung from their hinges, this seems a bit odd. Apparently (a later reading of the above BBC news report reveals), the Cathedral has a 1,000 year history and “it can sometimes take a little while for change to occur”. Quite.

We’re both amazed that the plan for the episode is panning out as we move towards some radical anthropology and the embedded environmental knowledge contained in ancient English place names. Louise ups the game with a find detailing how bird song created names for particular places, and we both wonder at how much we have lost by losing the connection with the meaning of these original naming patterns. If we can only decode these names, these signals, we both feel like that’s a new way of understanding our realities.

There’s a thread developing here… Louise recommends her second book of the episode – David Abrahams’ Spell of the Sensuous, which sounds awesome.

As we enter the second half of the pod’, we start to enquire into slowing down and how it might be to intentionally tune into the rhythms of the natural world around us. This leads us into a discussion around stretching, Buddhism, experiences of Zen Meditation on YouTube and Neil’s current intellectual love – the work of novelist Ruth Ozeki – which is just fabulous.

[Note – in the podcast, Neil says that Ruth is a Japanese-American writer. She is Japanese-Canadian. He then gets Thích Nhất Hạnh’s name wrong. Sincerest apologies on both counts]

Returning to one of our favourite themes of psychogeography, we give a quick shout out for a recent episode of The Deep Dive Podcast with Philip McKenzie & Lezlie Lowe. We’ll return to this in a future episode but if you’re the type of person who navigates cities by clean public restrooms, you’ll love it.

Sticking with podcasts, and swinging back by Ruth Ozeki, Neil happened upon a talk she gave to the San Francisco Zen Centre about her writing and experience as a Zen Buddhist Priest. What really stopped Neil in his tracks was the revelation that, in Buddhism, the mind is a sixth sense – which means that thoughts have the same weight as sounds or smells. Louise brings Anil Seth’s Being You back in, specifically around the roles of our emotions in navigating the world. It’s likely that we’ll return to this in a future episode as it’s a rich tapestry to be unfurled – so stay tuned!

Coming to the end of the podcast – it’s time to blur our realities with AI and let ChatGPT make an appearance. If you haven’t checked it out yet, do. From answers questions to writing (slightly dodgy) poetry, it is a fascinating tool for retrieving information in a human-like fashion.

Until the next time – come in, pull up a chair. The Salon is open!


Episode 21: Playful natures as blue feathers fly

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As if reaching the 20th episode wasn’t enough, HYP is now 21. Neil’s gabber is flasted, Louise is amazed and we wonder whether AI could be put to good use in counting the number of words we’ve got through up to this point… What else is AI good for?

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In this episode, we revel in a few exciting facts about the number 21, which meander from sports to ponderings on whether guineas (currency) came before guineas (birds), or vice versa,and the random facts about money through the ages.

Louise realises that she’s stopped paying attention to the news for a while, and has hopped off Twitter (did you know that ‘heavy users’ of Twitter are now described as people who log in a 6/7 days a week and post 3 or 4 times? That seems mad). But no silence filter is perfect and one piece of news that has broken into both of our universes is the research backed revelation that bumblebees play, even when there’s no obvious reason to do so. Bumblebees are fully awesome – can this piece of news make them even more so?

This of course prompts a meander into whether other animals – specifically birds – play or have a sense of humour. Maybe they do. Here’s a crow purposefully sledding down a roof on a plastic lid. You can make your own minds up… (Neil’s memory said it’s a silver tray. Silly Neil.)

While we’re deep diving into nature, Neil’s been forest bathing (something that we have spoken about before on the podcast). Having nearly sniffed up an earthworm and said Thank You to a twig, he can thoroughly recommend the experience. The National Forest Bathing Institute is well worth checking out for more!

Naturally, this presages a meditation on moving into autumn, death, dying and renewal. Which is when Louise drops this delight:

“You can’t accept something new in until you’ve experienced and acknowledged the loss of something else”


In the world of social media, we are both exploring the world of Mastadon (here’s Louise’s profile / here’s Neil’s). It’s very like the early days of the internet that we both remember and is proving to be a mirror for how we’ve been habituated by the big blue bird into certain behaviours which we’re not sure are serving us. Louise has done some fabulous digging and beautifully explains a lot of the theory behind how the platform works.

If you haven’t come across Mastadon and fancy try it, do connect with us. It’s kinda like Twitter, but not (as this article helpfully sets out). Here’s a useful ‘intro guide’ into the fediverse as well.

As is our way, we slide into a deep discussion about freedom of speech, and how this works on federated platforms. Should speech which we both find abhorrent (Nazi-ism, prejudice etc) be allowed within their own server instances in the name of free speech, or should the decision be made to moderate all instances? And who gets to make that decision?

This is a thorny topic – and we’d love to hear your thoughts, and we are choosing our words carefully here… Please comment below or on the podcast episode!

Having dropped a quick nod to Voltaire and a cheeky Sartre reference, we start to enquire into similarities between people quickly checking out of social platforms (have a look at this super Twitter thread from John Bull), and the current ‘phenomenon’ of quiet quitting in the workplace.

As we move gloriously, exploratorily, towards the end, Louise drops some love for Emotion At Work and the Thinking Environment. It’s social, but maybe not as we know it…

Until the next time – come in, pull up a chair. The Salon is open!

Episode 3 (part 2) Show Notes: Outside, in (with added cinnabar moths)

How can we benefit from the idea of bringing the outside in – to our offices, our cities and our lives?

In this second part of our outside special (catch up with Part 1 if you haven’t done already!), Louise & Neil start looking into bringing the outside into the office, nature in cities and the joy of random disruptions. Continue reading “Episode 3 (part 2) Show Notes: Outside, in (with added cinnabar moths)”

Episode 3 Show Notes: Pigeons ate my Brussels Sprouts

Brussels Sprout attract more than just the occasional festive dinner-party outlier…

There are few things better than getting outside on a sunny day.  Relishing the rare British Summer, Louise & Neil head up to Louise’s allotments to soak in some nature.

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