Episode 25: Everything, everywhere, in 75 minutes flat.

Welcome to the 25th episode of the Hello You Podcast! Yes, that’s right, we’ve hit our quarter centennial celebration!

Somehow, we manage not to talk about this milestone all episode… If you can’t wait to hear what we did talk about, dive into the episode right now – here’s the link.

Alternatively, you’re more than welcome to check out the show notes below to mentally and physically prepare yourself for the onslaught of Salon-style chat that is HYP!

We started off, completely unexpectedly, riffing on the awesomeness that is Everything, Everywhere All At Once. What. A. Film. From a visual storytelling spectacle to a real moment for representation in cinema, EEAAO threads its way throughout this episode – especially the first 15minutes or so as we go on a deep, deep dive into it.
Interestingly, EEAAO is the noise Neil’s brain made after watching it for the first time. True Fact.

Language emerges as a theme from EEAAO, particularly the rapid language switching that it requires from viewers. We ponder on how much we take the privilege of belonging that language gives us for granted, and the absolute gift that EEAAO gives us to reframe our viewership experience.

Speaking of how language enables us to navigate the world around us, we dip into Thirteen Untranslatable Words and an exploration of how violence can be done to language when words become hollowed out. This is a regular thread for us, and we remember ranting about certain words about in Episode 2 of this pod’, which we then revisited in Episode 5, before exploring thoughts about linguistic colonialism in Episode 17 and understanding the anthropology of place names in Episode 22.

Louise drops a reco’ for Faith, Hope & Charity by Nick Cave & Sean O’Hagan, inspired by one of the untranslatable words, which happens to be Neil’s fave. We sidled into linguistic taxonomy and how categorising the world leads to our changed relationship with it. Meanwhile, Louise has just finished reading a Derrida tome, although is finishing reading Derrida, finishing reading Derrida?

Nipping through Algospeak and 1337 (Leet) speak, youth lingo, cockney rhyming slang and emojification, we investigate having conversations inside other conversations. Changing language to hide in plain sight is nothing new, but the change is now being driven by technology at an enormous pace.

There’s a natty segue into a fabulous podcast Louise shared – Emotion At Work – which features an incredibly strong theme around clarity. What do work cultures permit you to ask for, and how does this affect your experience? Clarity and compassion start to emerge, Louise puts her finger on a huge issue about the energy needed to navigate unclear situations and we deal with weaponised unclarity. Louise inspires Neil to explore an idea about how clarity is highly exposing.

“The courage to be clear creates psychological safety” is a beautiful jumping off point which helps us to deepen an exploration of clarity and its relationship to leadership. Thank you Louise ❤️ (before she then knits polyvagal theory into the conversation. Wow).

We finish up on the world of RSS, a technology that’s been around for 25 years+ but which isn’t widely adopted these days. Apart from by a stubborn few (yes, one of whom is Neil who ran two polls – one on Mastodon and one on LinkedIn – to give this conversation some semblance of empirical sanity), RSS seems to be largely forgotten. However, could it actually be our saviour from being “awash with content”, defeat algorithmic info-tsunamis and help us to take back control of our internet?

Neil says ‘Yes’ and Louise wonders if it is some kind of dark magic. But what do you say, dear listeners? Check out the episode and tell us what you think!

As always, the Salon is open for you, your friends, your nearest-and-dearest or those you’ve only just met on the bus to listen to. Episode 25 is now live for your delectation and delight – so pull up a chair, kick back and dive into the wonderful world of Hello You Podcast!

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Episode 24: Being messily human all over the place

Welcome to the 24th episode of the Hello You Podcast! We can’t quite believe that we’ve amassed two years’ worth of chats – and, we don’t know about you regular listeners, but we’re sensing a change in our chats and practice. We’d love to know what you think – comment away below!

If you want to get into the episode right now – head on over to our home on Anchor! Here’s the link for the latest episode – and of course you can catch up on any previous ones you have missed (as if you would).

We talk about reading ‘work stuff’ outside of work, riff on the value of generalists and specialists, and appreciate the value of curiosity.

There’s talk of things being (pardon our expletives), quite a bit shit in quite a lot of ways, and Louise drops the notion of polycrisis. However, it’s not all swearing and doom – Louise had an amazing experience recently at Helena Clayton’s Love Lab workshop and can’t wait to talk about it!

Stand Up for Love is a phrase Louise slides into the conversation (no, it’s not Destiny’s Child) before following up with a Hello You Podcast exclusive – she is developing a workshop on listening with love. Look out for a post here for a HYP exclusive to sign up!

We wonder about whether it’s possible to love an internet troll, the wisdom of firing crap from the moon (Neil’s phrase) to make a protective sunscreen around the earth and whether critical ignoring is the right way to go about keeping ourselves free from unwanted and unpalatable intrusions.

Since poetry is awesome, Louise finds a thread into Arji Manuelpillai, specifically a podcast about his ‘Improvised Explosive Device’ collection. It turns out that Arji’s work has been informed by an investigation into the views/practices of the English Defence League – not standard fare, perhaps, but important contribution to anti-polarisation and relationship formation. And then we slide into community, framed by a poem recently shared with Louise – ‘How do you create community’ by Tad Hargrave in fact.

This has been The Salon is open for another joyful, lovely, escapade around the messy business of being a human – and you’re invited to join us! Follow this link to listen in on Anchor.FM!

Things we mention in passing:
Philip Mackenzie’s amazing Deep Dive Podcast
Mark Ritson’s marketing writing
Zen Studies Podcast on “Acceptance” and “Non attachment”
‘Intro’ by John Grant
Peeps Magazine
Behavioral Scientist
Grayson Perry: Divided Britain
They by Kay Dick

Episode 23: 23s abound, technology doesn’t

Welcome to our 23rd episode! Louise & Neil get a bit giddy because 23s are flying at them from all sides.

Unlike, it must be said, the internet. Which is not playing ball.

However, the chatters persevered until the great 404 finally descended, thrusting them back into a near pre-internet age.

The good news though is that, through the magic of editing, this somewhat truncated episode has managed to escape the technogremlins, at least in part.

Strap in, dear listeners, for a giddy journey through bird-shapes (and noises); the excitement of daylight/changing seasons, and a spoiler free exploration of A Tale For The Time Being by Ruth Ozeki (which we’ve both read).

The Salon is open – and you’re invited! Follow this link to listen in on Anchor.FM!

Episode 22: Exploring slowly – and questioning realities

Welcome to our last episode of 2022! We’re recording just before Christmas and do the Terribly British Thing by launching into talking about Christmas decorations and who’s got what version of which virus doing the rounds.

Fear not! Dear listeners – we are hale and hearty enough to chew through some of the things which are rippling our universes… Louise also drops the word ‘miasma’ – which is gloriously unexpected.

Jump in here for the full episode!

It’s not quite as unexpected as discovering that South Korea is about to change its aging system. We’re thoroughly amazed, and start inquiring into the differences between a South Korean ‘Two Year Old’ and a Western ‘Two Year Old’ – and what this might mean, especially as an entire nation would get a year older at the same time. We also get curious about what this means for celebrating individual’s birth event anniversaries and how we construct our reality in relation to people’s age. This is a complete blindspot in our knowledge – so if anyone with a better understanding of South Korean culture and tradition is listening, please get in touch!

If the way we age (at least in numbers) is socially constructed, then what does this tell us about the construction of reality around us? Louise has found a superb piece from the BBC, narrated by Anil Seth (whose book, Being You, Louise is loving). We start with thinking about colour, then back to South Korean aging and on into ancient glassware in Bristol Museum which also defies reality unless you pay attention… Louise also plugs The Perception Census which sounds amazing.

Our joint flabber is generally ghasted when Louise drops the morsel that in Canterbury, England, there wasn’t a Cathedral Girl’s Choir until 2014. In an age where the doors of the patriarchy are quite rightly being flung from their hinges, this seems a bit odd. Apparently (a later reading of the above BBC news report reveals), the Cathedral has a 1,000 year history and “it can sometimes take a little while for change to occur”. Quite.

We’re both amazed that the plan for the episode is panning out as we move towards some radical anthropology and the embedded environmental knowledge contained in ancient English place names. Louise ups the game with a find detailing how bird song created names for particular places, and we both wonder at how much we have lost by losing the connection with the meaning of these original naming patterns. If we can only decode these names, these signals, we both feel like that’s a new way of understanding our realities.

There’s a thread developing here… Louise recommends her second book of the episode – David Abrahams’ Spell of the Sensuous, which sounds awesome.

As we enter the second half of the pod’, we start to enquire into slowing down and how it might be to intentionally tune into the rhythms of the natural world around us. This leads us into a discussion around stretching, Buddhism, experiences of Zen Meditation on YouTube and Neil’s current intellectual love – the work of novelist Ruth Ozeki – which is just fabulous.

[Note – in the podcast, Neil says that Ruth is a Japanese-American writer. She is Japanese-Canadian. He then gets Thích Nhất Hạnh’s name wrong. Sincerest apologies on both counts]

Returning to one of our favourite themes of psychogeography, we give a quick shout out for a recent episode of The Deep Dive Podcast with Philip McKenzie & Lezlie Lowe. We’ll return to this in a future episode but if you’re the type of person who navigates cities by clean public restrooms, you’ll love it.

Sticking with podcasts, and swinging back by Ruth Ozeki, Neil happened upon a talk she gave to the San Francisco Zen Centre about her writing and experience as a Zen Buddhist Priest. What really stopped Neil in his tracks was the revelation that, in Buddhism, the mind is a sixth sense – which means that thoughts have the same weight as sounds or smells. Louise brings Anil Seth’s Being You back in, specifically around the roles of our emotions in navigating the world. It’s likely that we’ll return to this in a future episode as it’s a rich tapestry to be unfurled – so stay tuned!

Coming to the end of the podcast – it’s time to blur our realities with AI and let ChatGPT make an appearance. If you haven’t checked it out yet, do. From answers questions to writing (slightly dodgy) poetry, it is a fascinating tool for retrieving information in a human-like fashion.

Until the next time – come in, pull up a chair. The Salon is open!

Episode 21: Playful natures as blue feathers fly

As if reaching the 20th episode wasn’t enough, HYP is now 21. Neil’s gabber is flasted, Louise is amazed and we wonder whether AI could be put to good use in counting the number of words we’ve got through up to this point… What else is AI good for?

The Salon is open and we would love you to join us! Listen in by following this link!

In this episode, we revel in a few exciting facts about the number 21, which meander from sports to ponderings on whether guineas (currency) came before guineas (birds), or vice versa,and the random facts about money through the ages.

Louise realises that she’s stopped paying attention to the news for a while, and has hopped off Twitter (did you know that ‘heavy users’ of Twitter are now described as people who log in a 6/7 days a week and post 3 or 4 times? That seems mad). But no silence filter is perfect and one piece of news that has broken into both of our universes is the research backed revelation that bumblebees play, even when there’s no obvious reason to do so. Bumblebees are fully awesome – can this piece of news make them even more so?

This of course prompts a meander into whether other animals – specifically birds – play or have a sense of humour. Maybe they do. Here’s a crow purposefully sledding down a roof on a plastic lid. You can make your own minds up… (Neil’s memory said it’s a silver tray. Silly Neil.)

While we’re deep diving into nature, Neil’s been forest bathing (something that we have spoken about before on the podcast). Having nearly sniffed up an earthworm and said Thank You to a twig, he can thoroughly recommend the experience. The National Forest Bathing Institute is well worth checking out for more!

Naturally, this presages a meditation on moving into autumn, death, dying and renewal. Which is when Louise drops this delight:

“You can’t accept something new in until you’ve experienced and acknowledged the loss of something else”

Louise

In the world of social media, we are both exploring the world of Mastadon (here’s Louise’s profile / here’s Neil’s). It’s very like the early days of the internet that we both remember and is proving to be a mirror for how we’ve been habituated by the big blue bird into certain behaviours which we’re not sure are serving us. Louise has done some fabulous digging and beautifully explains a lot of the theory behind how the platform works.

If you haven’t come across Mastadon and fancy try it, do connect with us. It’s kinda like Twitter, but not (as this article helpfully sets out). Here’s a useful ‘intro guide’ into the fediverse as well.

As is our way, we slide into a deep discussion about freedom of speech, and how this works on federated platforms. Should speech which we both find abhorrent (Nazi-ism, prejudice etc) be allowed within their own server instances in the name of free speech, or should the decision be made to moderate all instances? And who gets to make that decision?

This is a thorny topic – and we’d love to hear your thoughts, and we are choosing our words carefully here… Please comment below or on the podcast episode!

Having dropped a quick nod to Voltaire and a cheeky Sartre reference, we start to enquire into similarities between people quickly checking out of social platforms (have a look at this super Twitter thread from John Bull), and the current ‘phenomenon’ of quiet quitting in the workplace.

As we move gloriously, exploratorily, towards the end, Louise drops some love for Emotion At Work and the Thinking Environment. It’s social, but maybe not as we know it…

Until the next time – come in, pull up a chair. The Salon is open!

Episode 19: Spiders, Spuffy and impossible birds

It’s almost September and the Salon doors are flung wide open (even if this means that autumn spiders come stomping inside)!

Have a listen to the wonderfully meandering conversation here – and check out the shownotes below for a taste of what you’re in for!

We begin in the natural queendom. Spiders drift daintily on gossamer threads through Louise’s forest, while in Neil’s house, wolf spiders capable of carrying off goats lurk behind the sofa. Turnstones might be Louise’s favourite bird, but she’s never seen them turn a stone. Are they lying?

While the Turnstones aren’t turning stones, they are hiding behind rocks, which makes them impossible to count apparently. This does however give Louise’s mind time to wander, and we swoop into a conversation about neurodivergence (particularly in the workplace).

Birds seem to be a temporary theme. Louise spoils Neil with a reference to The Canary Code (which isn’t about birds at all but rather intersectionality in the workplace). Following the flight path, Neil’s reminded of an inspiring piece posted to Behavioral Scientist about the lived experience of poverty and how including lived experience in intervention design makes everything better.

Louise’s recos come swiftly and solidly: Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez is followed by a shout out for a recent ep of Four Thought, exploring the question of ‘Who Tells The Story?’. While Neil’s cognitively wiggling from those like a worm in a beak, BOOM! In comes Spuffy-dom and a delve into the fan fic universe of Buffy The Vampire Slayer via this article about an incredibly problematic episode (and what the fan are doing about it). We may brush against Freud and Jung but really… Wooden stakes speak for themselves.

Buffy kicked down some representational doors in her time, paving the way eventually for shows like Heartstopper (available on Netflix and based on a series of books by Alice Oseman). Neil wishes shows like this were available when he was young. But then there were only 4 channels in the UK. And ‘gay’ wasn’t a thing TV really liked to talk about unless it was terrifying, over-dramatic or Julian Clary (who could be all three in hindsight).

Flicking through the channels of chat, we alight briefly on the power of animation to tell stories and reflect things that standard shows can’t. Neil clangs down a reference to BoJack Horseman, and then (of course), The Simpsons ,which gets away with more than you’d expect it to.

It’s another wonderful conversation – and we invite you into the Salon with us! Follow this link to our official home on Anchor – or search ‘Hello You Podcast’ wherever you get your pods!

Episode 15: From big views to navigating news

Welcome to Episode 15 Hello You Podcast!

This is our first international episode – Louise is discovering new, big views, in Portugal where the weather isn’t behaving as expected. The coffee is cheap, and it transpires that Neil may be a coffee snob. Which he is.

Pull up a chair – the Salon is open. Follow this link to listen in – or skim the shownotes below first to see exactly what you’ll be getting yourself in for!

We indulge our love of big spaces, and dip into recent research out of China which demonstrates a correlation between childhood exposure to green space and adult mental health. While a 50 year longitudinal study would be interesting, we also ponder on the ethical approval of such a study – “No green space for you, control group!”… (It also reminds us of a season 1 episode when we check out the idea of biophilia)

We jump on a segue (say it) to get to a rather interesting study on the social effects of reality TV and pervasive rags-to-riches stories on actual reality and culture.

Which leads us onto mutual love for The Philosopher’s Zone podcast and a series on time before Louise recommends 4,000 Weeks by Oliver Burkeman. We also take a sojourn into a LinkedIn conversation about efficiency. Because we can.

We talk about the war in Ukraine. We absolutely appreciate that some listeners may not wish to engage in this part of the conversation. We love you, and we respect that.

The discussion about the war being waged against Ukraine and its people starts at 22minutes. The invasion forms the backbone for the rest of our discussion, although we don’t always refer to it directly.

We have included the main threads below, with appropriate links. We hope that these are useful and helpful, even if you decide not to listen to this second half of the episode.

Please remember to look after yourselves. If you are struggling with the enormity of everything that is going on right now, you are part of a global community wondering how to process just what the heck is happening in so many spheres.

Please reach out to talk to someone – a friend, relative or counselling organisation. You are not alone and you are loved.

In this segment, we cover a lot of ground including some ridiculous comments from the Prime Minister of England.

We speak about the importance of identifying mis- and dis information, which leads us into an exploration of the news agenda – who owns the platform? What’s their agenda? Where is the money behind it all? Also, we talk about how we filter our own media consumption and ponder the differences between how media reaches us / the effect that those channels have.

Louise recommends some reading from Carole Cadwalladr on Twitter (for example this thread and this one).

Something else that troubles us is the decision by Meta to allow hate speech on the platform, in a temporary change to its policies.

This leads us to think more deeply about social media, its power to change the control over narratives, for good or ill. One of those good things is a Tumblr blog Louise used to run – View from the Coffee Table.

Within our explorations, Louise revives fond memories of A View From The Coffee Table, in which critters get up to all sorts of cheeky things. There are critters, a coffee table, wine glasses and disco balls. Oh, and a train journey. It’s on Tumblr so it must be true.

Finally in this podcast (55:30), we return to Ukraine to speak about moments of beauty courtesy of a Twitter feed – WarCoffee.

Things we find interesting

New Citizenship – Louise discovered them at Meaning Conference. When we think of ourselves in different modes (consumer, subject, citizen), our behaviour changes accordingly.

The tipping point for ideas is when 10% of a population have an unshakeable belief in it

Some things we love

We love the Catalyst Club, a true Brighton institution.

We love Peeps Magazine, an inspiring publisher based in Canada who are doing some truly brilliant world building content.

Episode 14: In which we discover Nyctous

Welcome to Episode 14 of the joyously unfurling experiment that is Hello You Podcast!

We record on a delightfully palindromic date; exploring the ebbs, flows, echoes and traces of the English language; diving into the most wonderful poem by Katha Pollitt; and talking about one of our most oft-explored topics: diversity, inclusion and the richness other people’s experiences brings to our own existence.

Pull up a chair – the Salon is open. Follow this link to listen in!

Language ebbs and flows:
– Things at risk of being lost from the English language
– Putting words into the English language
– Do you know where “Gone for a lob in a bucket” comes from? (If you’ve got any weird and wonderful family words or sayings, let us know!)
– We talk about language suppression – this link wasn’t to hand at the time but it illustrates our conversation
– We mention Tolkien and in true fact-checking style we can confirm he did create his own language. In fact he created several, read an interesting essay on Tolkien’s languages and their relationship with his storytelling here.

Poetry
– Katha Pollitt’s amazing poem – Silent Letter. (What does this bring up for you?)
– An interesting study that uses poetry to uncover experiences of belonging in Higher Education
– Louise shares some exciting ideas for exploring poetry with others (which reminds us about a previous episode where we talked about mental simulations quite a lot)

Equality, Equity and Inclusion
– Louise recommends this amazing Ted video from Stella Young: “I’m not your inspiration, thank you very much“
– We talk about checking our privilege and how single terms might describe a clinical condition but not the variety of experiences which make every human unique
– We also talk about how language changes and moves on when talking about disabilities – for example how the charity Scope was previously known as something else (and a word that we no longer use)

Also…
– Did you know that Back To The Future was originally meant to have a time travelling fridge?
– AI invented its own language. And then got shut down.

Christmas 2021: Eavesdropping into the lacunae

Hello, You!

Louise is in deeley boppers, Shiro Cat is thoroughly spoilt and it’s episode 12 of Hello You Podcast! It’s both Christmas themed and rich in links this month.

We give a shout out to lovely listener Rachel Rumble, explore bravery in charity communications and muse over Joseph Conrad’s ability to include the reader deeply in his writing. We also narrowly avoid panic-buying cinnamon in a bid to increase our creativity, even though cinnamon is a quintessential Christmas spice.

Welcome – the Salon is open and there’s a chair waiting for you … Follow this link to listen in!

Topic	Time code (approx)	Link
Shiro Cat has many, many beds	00:00	Here she is on Twitter. Isn’t she cute?
We talk about the wearing nature of this end of the year, and promise to share some good mental health support links in the shownotes NOTE – these are all UK based	6:00	Shout NHS Mental Health Charity Directory NHS Urgent mental health support Rethink MIND
Where do we get inspiration from? Louise shares an amazing piece of analysis of Joseph Conrad’s work. Also, if anyone can explain Rothko, Neil would love to know!	8:00	The migratory fictions of Joseph Conrad Will McInnes’ LinkedIn post looking for inspirational sources
A poetry recollection: Identity by Elizabeth Jennings	16:37	Read the text of the poem here
Louise’s love for the RNLI and it’s bold response to criticism from tabloids and Nigel Farrage. As an aside, Wikipedia tells us that “The RNLI’s lifeboat crews and lifeguards have saved more than 140,000 lives since 1824”	22:08	Tweet from @travellingcoral RNLI on going bold with their comms We mentioned the fabulous Julie Rainey, here she is on LinkedIn
Also a shout out for Hampshire and Isle of Wight air ambulance for being brave enough to talk back	27:27	Tweet: “Can you explain why you decided to fly at 1750ft from St Mary’s to Southampton General hospital at 4am over residental properties… “
Ratty and Mole talk marketing strategy (or something …)	31:40	Tweet from @rattyandmolebot
We talk about an article on the role of cinnamon in creativity and Neil gets excited about biohacking	35:40	Science says smelling cinnamon can make you much more creative and innovative (but not for the reason you might think) – article from Inc.
Musings on the distinction between perfection and excellence	38:38	Striving for perfection, rather than excellence, can kill creativity – article from the BPS
Perfection is for the gods … roman mosaics and making mistakes on purpose. Which reminds Neil of watching a film based on a book by the Marquis de Sade	46:35	Details of how to visit the places Neil mentions if you feel so inclined: Fishbourne Roman Palace Bignor Roman Villa Salo – entry on the film in Wikipedia
Neil & Louise ruminate on TV advertising – is a nation’s advertising a view into it’s collective blind spots? Or is it simply that we’re outside the target demographic?	51:40	The perfect antidote to TV advertising: Copyranter 2.0 on substack Neil’s LinkedIn post about the Guinness advert
A final festive themed story of a package finding it’s intended recipients in Canada with the help of Twitter	1:01:01	Twitter I need your help! It’s the Holidays & a package meant for “Yasmin & Perry” has been misaddressed & delivered to me …

December 2021: Recognising the human input

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The unfurling HYP experiment continues, welcoming proper double digits (11. Racy in Bingo language, apparently) with a dive into design, a recollection of the numb tongues of episode 8 and rather a lot of love shared for our favourite designer…

As always, we’re super grateful to our lovely LinkedIn gang for curating fascinating topics and sharing thoughts, ideas or opinions – have a listen to the episode and then please follow the links in the shownotes.

And, towards the end, we throw the floor open to you, fabulous listeners – the future of marketing may depend on you!

Welcome – the Salon is open and there’s a chair waiting for you … Follow this link to listen in!

Topic	Time code (approx)	Link
Starting with a lift…	00:00
We recap on the awesome ‘These Are The Hands’ project Louise was involved in – and discover a heap of new awesomeness that’s about to happen with it!	1:00	These Are The Hands on Poetry Pharmacy Link to OFFICIAL LAUNCH EVENT! (9 Dec 2021. Caps intentional!) Link to the live 2020 event, run by Louise! Louis Theroux’s Grounded Podcast Miriam & Alan: Lost in Scotland (Channel 4) The Bigger Picture Collaboration
Did you know that Guinness is vegan? Louise didn’t (but is delighted to discover that it’s indeed true). Other drinks are available. And any Guinness / marmite health claims are entirely unsubstantiated (yet delicious). We also reminisce – fondly? maybe – about our 70s clove based cocktail experience.	6:00	Proof that Guinness is vegan August ’21 episode
Grounded / Groundedness Marketing – yes it’s a Thing. We dive into what sort of a Thing it is, and share the love for our LinkedIn friends who contributed to a most marvellous discussion. We also explore abstract loss, the price/value of connectedness and what happens when you name a Thing (especially in Marketing)	08:55	The fabulous LinkedIn discussion – why not join in and share your thoughts? Pepperidge Farm Remembers advert Harnessing Nostalgia by Nedra Kline Weinreich Baz Luhrmann – Everybody’s Free To Wear Sunscreen Rachel Clark Art
We do love a good bit of design – so we delve into the world of Local Government Logos. We chat about ‘radical simplicity’, share a lot of love for Scott Winterberg over at Spitfire Design and Rolls Royce hubcaps.	30:20	Tim Ridgway’s superb curation on LinkedIn that kicked this discussion off Spitfire Creative Adur & Worthing Councils’ gorgeous brand guidelines Rolls Royce hub caps – and how they stay upright. BBC Cuffs – Filmed at Adur Civic Centre An explanation of ‘anchor institutions’. Sussex University’s branding McDonald’s playing with their logo
Bravery in branding & design is all very well and good, but it is effective?	49:00	‘Creative effectiveness is collapsing’
It seems harder than ever to find good, new and interesting blogs about marketing. Louise poses a radical suggestion and we ask: “Listeners – who is out there on the edge of marketing thinking?” Answers on a postcard – or in the comments – please! The future of marketing may depend on you!	52:00	LitHub Orlando Wood on LinkedIn Copyranter